[ Boy she and Morpheus really are a good match, aren't they? The sex must be portentous. Do they actually get each other's clothes off or do they just eyefuck while whispering opaque nothings to each other?
[ She minds the exorcist knowing, so she will say nothing on that matter, given she's already frantic over planning how to deal with this going forward. She doesn't want an exorcist anywhere near him, especially given this line of inquiry.
Vanessa ought to have prepared for this possibility. She's been too preoccupied.
At least the mention of demons can allow her to veer the topic, for now. There are a plethora of damned scenarios to reference from Vanessa's own past. The inquiry directed towards her of all people is...laughable. ]
You may need to be more specific, or I would not know where to begin. What manner of demon are you inquiring after?
[ Constantine has the distinct impression that Ives is being evasive, answering questions with questions. Of course, so is she: two bullshitters bullshitting. She knows why she's avoiding the straight answers, but why is Ives? Protectiveness of Peter? Or of someone else around here? Could be she knows Crowley and has the same paranoia towards Johanna that he does. ]
The kind that hurt people, not the charming ones
[ No doubt that's very reassuring. ]
ffs Ives, you're smart enough to put pieces together. We're not getting anywhere if we both keep acting coy.
Peter's got something attached to him and it's hurting him. I've been trying to help him get some relief from it and I'm hoping you can help me help him
I mean fuck I'm not going to just whack him in the face with a bible and walk off I'm trying to be sensitive That's why I'm asking you But a possession needs a bit more than a cuppa and a listening ear
It is no fault of your own. There is no way that you, or anyone else could understand such a trial. Not without experiencing such a thing for yourself.
There is a reason for his possession. His demon is his own. How best he can cope, and keep a mind of himself, is something that cannot be imparted by an exorcist. In his own way, he is sacred.
So, what is it that you would then suggest?
Edited (I mean we already know he's scared) 2024-03-24 17:20 (UTC)
It is something that you will never touch. Not truly. Of course, you wouldn't wish to. It has become the part of him where most would not bear to look. In his blood, in his soul.
The demon is with him, even here, where we are without our physical forms. Without a connection to life, nor death. Without the whispers of Hell.
I have known my own demons. One in particular. We must all be grateful that I would never claim him as mine own, and so he did not follow.
Whether or not you think to act kindly, an exorcism would do little when there is nowhere for a demon to go. Torture would be the only outcome. To then hope to instead suffocate the creature's voice, to bury its urges, would be no better. His pain would only be prolonged.
[ There's a long pause after that last text, as Vanessa might expect. There's a lot to process there, even after Johanna gets past her annoyance at Vanessa assuming what she may or may not wish to do. ]
Are you saying he's not possessed, he *is* the demon?
[ Let's all be grateful she self-censored her first try at that sentence. ]
So the people who were after him, they succeeded?
But they didn't If they were trying to expel Peter, they didn't, he's obviously still there
Did they put something else in there or did they just wake it up?
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text; un: Constantine | around Jan. 18, unless time needs to wibble-wobble it to later
You're friends with Peter Graham, right?
[ This is probably not actually better than a "We need to talk" text, it's just got more syllables in it. ]
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Yes, he is a dear friend.
Why do you ask?
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[ Which doesn't answer the question. ]
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Underlying causes of losing time.
Morpheus suggested I talk to you.
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Unless he is keen to send Constantine into a trap, but she doubts he would encourage Vanessa's inclinations quite that avidly. ]
And?
Your inquiry?
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Anyway, fine, may as well get to it. ]
How do you think he would deal with bad news?
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[ Not a good idea. ]
What has happened?
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And if anything HAS happened to him lately I wouldn't mind knowing just in case there's a way I could help
Anyway
You know a fair bit about witches.
What do you know about demons?
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Vanessa ought to have prepared for this possibility. She's been too preoccupied.
At least the mention of demons can allow her to veer the topic, for now. There are a plethora of damned scenarios to reference from Vanessa's own past. The inquiry directed towards her of all people is...laughable. ]
You may need to be more specific, or I would not know where to begin. What manner of demon are you inquiring after?
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The kind that hurt people, not the charming ones
[ No doubt that's very reassuring. ]
ffs Ives, you're smart enough to put pieces together. We're not getting anywhere if we both keep acting coy.
Peter's got something attached to him and it's hurting him. I've been trying to help him get some relief from it and I'm hoping you can help me help him
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What do you hope to accomplish? To 'help' him? An exorcism is not possible. What he needs is understanding.
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I mean fuck I'm not going to just whack him in the face with a bible and walk off
I'm trying to be sensitive
That's why I'm asking you
But a possession needs a bit more than a cuppa and a listening ear
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There is a reason for his possession. His demon is his own. How best he can cope, and keep a mind of himself, is something that cannot be imparted by an exorcist. In his own way, he is sacred.
So, what is it that you would then suggest?
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How do you mean "his own"?
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The demon is with him, even here, where we are without our physical forms. Without a connection to life, nor death. Without the whispers of Hell.
I have known my own demons. One in particular. We must all be grateful that I would never claim him as mine own, and so he did not follow.
Whether or not you think to act kindly, an exorcism would do little when there is nowhere for a demon to go. Torture would be the only outcome. To then hope to instead suffocate the creature's voice, to bury its urges, would be no better. His pain would only be prolonged.
He is safe with me.
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Are you saying he's not possessed, he *is* the demon?
[ Let's all be grateful she self-censored her first try at that sentence. ]
So the people who were after him, they succeeded?
But they didn't
If they were trying to expel Peter, they didn't, he's obviously still there
Did they put something else in there or did they just wake it up?